Federal

What JD Vance and Tim Walz Said About School Safety in VP Debate

By Libby Stanford — October 01, 2024 3 min read
Republican vice presidential nominee Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, and Democratic vice presidential nominee Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz participate in a vice presidential debate hosted by CBS News Tuesday, Oct. 1, 2024, in New York.
  • Save to favorites
  • Print

Vice presidential candidates Sen. JD Vance and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz sparred over school shootings and migrant students in their 2024 election debate.

Education actually made an appearance in the Oct. 1 debate, which CBS aired from New York City, unlike last month’s debate between former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris, which didn’t include any questions related to K-12 schools. But education remained far less prevalent than other issues, like the economy, abortion rights, and foreign policy.

The most substantive, education-related back-and-forth happened during a discussion about gun violence, and, specifically, what could be done to prevent school shootings.

There have been 30 school shootings that have resulted in 48 injuries and 12 deaths, six of whom were children, so far in 2024, according to Education Week’s school shooting tracker.

Walz, a hunter and gun owner who once had an A rating from the National Rifle Association, said he would support a ban on assault weapons in addition to other gun safety measures like background checks for gun owners and red flag laws that allow police to intervene when a gun owner might present a risk to themselves or others.

Walz, a former teacher, didn’t always have that stance. When asked about his previous pro-gun track record, Walz said he changed his position after getting to know the families of school shooting victims.

“I sat in my office [in Congress] surrounded by dozens of the Sandy Hook parents, and they were looking at my 7-year-old’s picture on the wall,” Walz said. “Their 7-year-olds were dead, and they were asking us to do something.”

See Also

Sign indicating school zone.
iStock/Getty
School Climate & Safety Interactive School Shootings in 2024: How Many and Where
January 4, 2024
2 min read

Vance argued instead for increased “hardening” of schools by making doors, windows, and locks stronger and hiring more school resource officers.

“The idea that we can magically wave a wand and take guns out of the hands of bad guys, it just doesn’t fit with recent experience,” Vance said. “We’ve got to make our schools safer, and I think we have some common-sense bipartisan solutions for how to do that.”

Many schools have taken measures to improve security, like purchasing cameras, limiting entrances and exits to people with identification, and purchasing doors that lock from the inside. But those measures are still prone to human error, and if school districts don’t properly train staff on safety protocols, those measures could be worthless, experts have told Education Week.

See Also

Exterior view of a typical American school building seen on a spring day
iStock/Getty Images
School Climate & Safety These Surprise Inspections Test Schools' Safety Practices
Evie Blad, August 14, 2024
4 min read

Vance says migrant students are “overwhelming” schools

Responding to a question about immigration, Vance argued that illegal immigrant students have “overwhelmed” K-12 schools, blaming Harris and President Joe Biden for southern border policies that he says haven’t done enough to manage the flow of immigration.

“Look, in Springfield, Ohio, and in communities all across this country, you’ve got schools that are overwhelmed, you’ve got hospitals that are overwhelmed,” Vance said.

Trump and other Republicans have repeated the claim that migrant students are overwhelming schools throughout the campaign and in congressional hearings.

New York City, Denver, and Chicago schools have all reported thousands of newly arrived students in the past two years. And, in Springfield, where thousands of legal Haitian immigrants have moved for work opportunities, local schools have had to hire two dozen teachers to account for hundreds of new arrivals, according to the New York Times.

While many schools are feeling the strain, the problem isn’t ubiquitous, experts have told Education Week. In a public school system of 50 million students, 1 percent were foreign-born and had been in the U.S. for less than three years as of 2021, according to the most recent federal data.

In his rebuttal, Walz argued that Vance’s rhetoric around the immigration issue has had an impact on schools in Springfield. Last month, Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine, a Republican, authorized a contingent of state highway patrol officers to provide added security to the Springfield school district after a series of bomb threats were made following Trump’s debate with Harris, in which the former president repeated a false rumor that Haitian immigrants in the town were stealing and eating people’s pets.

See Also

Republican presidential nominee former President Donald Trump speaks during a presidential debate with Democratic presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris at the National Constitution Center, Tuesday, Sept.10, 2024, in Philadelphia.
Republican presidential nominee former President Donald Trump speaks during a presidential debate with Democratic presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris at the National Constitution Center, Tuesday, Sept. 10, 2024, in Philadelphia. He shared anti-immigrant rhetoric targeting the Haitian immigrant community of Springfield, Ohio.
Alex Brandon/AP

Vance was the first person on the campaign to amplify the rumor before the debate between Trump and Harris.

“The consequences in Springfield were the governor had to send state law enforcement to escort kindergartners to school,” Walz said during the debate with Vance.

Events

EdWeek Top School Jobs

Teacher Jobs
Search over ten thousand teaching jobs nationwide — elementary, middle, high school and more.
View Jobs
Principal Jobs
Find hundreds of jobs for principals, assistant principals, and other school leadership roles.
View Jobs
Administrator Jobs
Over a thousand district-level jobs: superintendents, directors, more.
View Jobs
Support Staff Jobs
Search thousands of jobs, from paraprofessionals to counselors and more.
View Jobs

Read Next

Federal New GOP Bills Would Permanently Shift Ed. Dept. Programs to Other Agencies
The bills represent the most significant step so far among Republicans to nix the Education Department.
5 min read
APTOPIX America 250 26184689017796
A flight of fighter jets fly past a picture of President Donald Trump hanging on the U.S. Department of Labor near the Great American State Fair on the National Mall on July 3, 2026, in Washington. The Labor Department has assumed day-to-day management of many K-12 programs as the Trump administration dismantles the Education Department.
Nathan Howard/AP Photo
Federal The Principal Pipeline Could Contract Under New Federal Borrowing Caps
A new analysis finds that new student loan limits would hit prospective administrators hardest.
4 min read
Commencement Ceremony 25353687159009
Graduates of Maryland's Towson University celebrate their commencement during a ceremony on Dec. 17, 2025. A new analysis finds that educators studying to become administrators could be hit hardest by new federal caps on student borrowing for graduate students.
Robyn Stevens Brody/Sipa via AP Images
Federal See What's in Trump Commission's Religious Freedom Agenda for Schools
Panel recommends federal guidance on parents' opt-out rights, Ten Commandments displays, and other features.
8 min read
West Bloomfield team members huddle as defensive line coach Justin Ibe leads a team prayer before the game against Eisenhower, Friday, Oct. 21, 2022, in West Bloomfield, Mich.
West Bloomfield team members huddle as defensive line coach Justin Ibe leads a team prayer before a game Oct. 21, 2022, in West Bloomfield, Mich. A federal religious liberty commission recently called for "know your rights" posters to inform public school students of their rights to prayer and religious expression.
Carlos Osorio/AP
Federal Changes to Student Loans Took Effect July 1. Here's What to Know
The changes mean the end of some payment plans and new limits for graduate loans.
5 min read
People demonstrate in Lafayette Park across from the White House in Washington, June 30, 2023, after a sharply divided Supreme Court has ruled that the Biden administration overstepped its authority in trying to cancel or reduce student loan debts for millions of Americans.
People demonstrate in Lafayette Park across from the White House in Washington on June 30, 2023, after the Supreme Court ruled the Biden administration overstepped its authority in trying to cancel or reduce student loan debts. A range of student loan changes took effect July 1.
Andrew Harnik/AP